Flame effect fires

[charliecoutas]

I spent last week with a pal in Devon. They have a Flame Effect Fire. I want to make one and have deduced this so far (not bothered about heat, it's the flame effect I'm after):

The "flame effect" comes from a long shaft with reflective, randomly shaped paddles that slowly rotates. Strong amber spotlights shine on these paddles. The light then travels through flame-shaped holes in an opaque screen. From they the light hits a screen but I can't work out exactly how.

The effect is very convincing. I searched around on the net but can't answer the last bit: what the "screen" is made of and exactly where it sits. Les did flame effect LEDs but this is different (I think).

Any ideas?

Charlie

[Fanie]

I have seen electronic fireplaces where the fire is a display.
Another was a fireplace with rags that get blown upward with red LED shining on them, also looks very realistic.

Of course nothing beats the real thing.

Perhaps a photo or video of the one you saw ?
jewgle for artificial fireplace and see the images.

Search on temu.com for faux fire
I always try to see what else has been already (like in China), you have 1,4 billion Chines giving you their ideas of what has been done before... BEEG brainstorm.

[top204]

You could try the flame effect neon bulbs Charlie.

I know some of the older flame effect neon bulbs were excellent, and a lot brighter than the modern ones, so maybe there are some sitting in boxes waiting to be useful again in the museum. Or a combination of LEDs slowly cycling the red and orange colours with a pseudo random movement, and flame neons would give a very realistic effect.

So old meets new.

[charliecoutas]

Les, Fanie

I've looked at flappy rags and LED sequencing but that's not what I'm after.

Something like the picture below. It's difficult to see how realistic these fires are from a still. I tried a video but the site wouldn't allow it.

Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-DkFerG48g

They look just like real flames, you'd have to be in the know not to be fooled. I have found another way of doing it: using ultrasonic transducers to atomise water into a cloud of vapour. A gentle breeze from a fan, some orange lights and it's there (sounds too easy but hey-ho).

Charlie

[top204]

A clever method, but where does all of that moisture go?

What I can see of the video, it could do with the red/orange light moving around a little bit, as a real fire does over time when the coals/logs burn down.