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With my programme out-growing a 64K device (dsPIC33CK64MP205) and Microchip quoting years before delivery of >64k devices, does anyone know of any 128/256/1024k devices in stock?

Alternatively, I can use any 48 pin UQFN-48 device. (only hardware I use is: 1x timer, 3x UART, 1x SPI, 2x I2c, 3x INT pins)
I see there is stock available of dsPIC33CH512MP205 but it's not supported by Positron.

Les - is there much work to port accross the code to a dual core (CH) from a single core (CK)? - Don't need the dual functionality just normal stuff!


Frustrated isn't the word...
Tim.

The situation is also tragic for other devices in the high-performance line, even Microchip's official website confirms what can be seen on distributor sites.
Delivery forecasts are 'hallucinating'...

It used to be so easy, pick your PIC and do the design. Now you have to find an available device and design around that. Possibly a worse problem is the manufacturing of existing designs where the original devices are no longer available. I've even had to resort to Ebay to get product.

Hi,

DSPIC33CK256MP505-I/M4  50 units  Future Electronics  https://www.futureelectronics.com/es/p/2105654?utm_source=octopart.com&utm_medium=cpcbuynow&utm_content=instock&utm_campaign=Octopart_Ext_Referals

Regards,
Gamboa

It really is a sad state for Microchip and as stated by others shortages,  hideous lead times and cost increases are over a vast range of silicon.  All mainstream MCU's are an issue with the exception of the RP2040 which seems to be struggling to get into designs.  RP2040 STOCK

Good call there Gamboa, saved my ass for a while. Thankyou.

The global shortage is really starting to bite (byte?) now. For power supply chips, we are looking more at the smaller independant manufacturer like Qorvo.com where previously we used almost exclusively Linear Tech - now Analog.

If Microchip cannot make product, how long can they hold out? Now that will be a disaster...

Quote from: JONW on Oct 13, 2022, 08:22 AMAll mainstream MCU's are an issue with the exception of the RP2040 which seems to be struggling to get into designs.  RP2040 STOCK

That's quite a lot of silicon for that price. Pity there's no BASIC compiler?

Quote from: SCV on Oct 13, 2022, 09:13 AMFor power supply chips, we are looking more at the smaller independant manufacturer like Qorvo.com where previously we used almost exclusively Linear Tech - now Analog.

I had never heard of them before. Assuming they do have product available, how come that the more established vendors don't?

106000 in stock ? I would definitely have time to learn the assembler of that micro before I see the supply sold out ! 

You might have time, but do you really want to

John

Quorvo were formerly Triquint and they purchased RFMD and some other suppliers before they changed the name, they produce really good RFIC's

For power devices in big volume you should look at MPS and Silergy, these guys are very low cost, have good availability and the parts are good quality.  Some of the best LDO for the price point are Torex and they have some pretty decent, but limited, DC-DC. 

Quote from: John Lawton on Oct 13, 2022, 12:06 PMYou might have time, but do you really want to

John

Of course i was joking    I'd rather learn ancient Aramaic !

Funnily enough my wife's a specialist in Aramaic and Syriac so I could ask her. Assembly not so much

However It is a pity that there is no Positron for Raspberry !

Unfortunately, out of stock and high prices are a real problem for Microchip customers. I didn't research too much. But when cost is the top priority, ELAN mcu lar Microchip can be a good alternative for older 8 bit mcu s. The instruction set is very similar to the old PIC16 series (I think so, I could be wrong). If the positron compiler could compile for it I would definitely like to use it. There are even those priced under 30 cents.

dsPIC33CK128MP205-E/PT
Mouser Part #
579-PIC33CK128MP205E
   Microchip Technology / Atmel
   Digital Signal Processors & Controllers - DSP, DSC 16 Bit DSC, 128KB Flash, 16KB RAM, 100MHz, 28Pin, 3 OpAmp, 3 Comp, PTG
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Datasheet
   
500 Expected 12/19/2022
   
1:    $4.36
25:    $3.99
100:    $3.92
250:    $3.91

I have placed back orders for parts and they had them sent fairly close to the projected time. 
They don't charge until they ship.
I believe the 28 pin package is a mistake as further along in the description:
Series:    dsPIC33CK    
Tradename:    dsPIC    
Mounting Style:    SMD/SMT    
Package / Case:    TQFP-48    
Core:    dsPIC33CK    
Number of Cores:    1 Core    
Maximum Clock Frequency:    100 MHz    
L1 Cache Instruction Memory:    -    
L1 Cache Data Memory:    -    
Program Memory Size:    128 kB    
Data RAM Size:    16 kB    
Operating Supply Voltage:    3 V to 3.6 V    
Minimum Operating Temperature:    - 40 C    
Maximum Operating Temperature:    + 125 C

That is about all I could find...
HAL

All part numbers for that family ending in 202 are 28pin devices, so for instance this device is 28pin: https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/Microchip-Technology-Atmel/dsPIC33CK128MP202-I-SS?qs=y6ZabgHbY%252BwcHeZTwWskMQ%3D%3D