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Started by charliecoutas, Oct 02, 2025, 04:30 PM

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Fanie

Always better to remove the cause of a problem than try to treat the symptoms.  While you still can !

Stephen Moss

I rembemer that about 30 years ago we had cause to look at the mains at work and on all three phase were a little flat on the top, but the Red phase was particularly bad dropping about 20 volts off its peek. There was talk of building a power factor meter but it was more of a side project that was never built although I did look at try to use the feedback signal of a power factor correction chip to calculate the power factor but how much correction it had to make.

Quote from: charliecoutas on Oct 07, 2025, 01:48 PMPower factor correction only applies above a certain power level, and I think it's above 1.5Kw but I'm not sure.
At work we have a lot or large milling machines and lathes that probably accounted for much of that, but I also remember reading something (probably 20-25 years ago) back when PC's were becoming more heavily used in the workplace that their power supplies were starting to have a significant affect the power factor and so to compensate for and prevent additional loading that there was going to be a requirement for all new electrical/electronic equipment of 50W or higher to have power factor correction built in, although over the years the Wattage requirement may have changed (lowered?) to cover the millions of mobile phone chargers that are in use now.

charliecoutas

I'm pretty sure that most low-end stuff (up to several hundred watts) doesn't have power factor correction. I can say this because when I worked at Telonic Instruments Ltd I had to repair a lot of power supply equipment and much of it had no PFC. It was usually a hefty diode bridge followed by a hefty capacitor or more. Then the switch mode stuff followed that.

The "regulations" seem to indicate that PFC should, perhaps be "considered" for several KVA upwards. I have fixed quite a few TV switched mode psu's and never come across PFC. The only PFC of 1 that I saw on my gear at home was on the little plug-in scent gadgets that Lynda likes to litter our 13A sockets with. They work (I guess) by heating a resistor to evaporate the smelly liquid, and a resistor (non-wirewound) will cause a power factor of one.

But I'm guessing that a low power factor will be penalised by the power companies because some of the power (the reactive bit) is wasted.

I'm still looking for that rogue 300 watts.....

Charlie